Points for Normal People
Most points advice is built for the first-class life. This show is for normal families who want their everyday spending to cover multiple vacations a year, in just a few hours a month.

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E56: Strategy Shifts for 2027 + Three-Year Plan Update
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- E56E56: Strategy Shifts for 2027 + Three-Year Plan Update
- S3 · E21The Southwest Companion Pass as we know it is endingSouthwest
- S3 · E20What’s Going On With Chase Ink Approvals in 2026Chase
- S3 · E19Chase Sapphire Preferred Just ‘Refreshed’ [2026] — Is it still worth it?Chase
- S3 · E18Award Travel Updates: Alaska, Avios, Citi & Bilt Changes Explained!Booking flights
- S3 · E17How to Book United Flights Without United MilesBooking flights
- S3 · E16United MileagePlus® Explained: Earning, Cards, Pooling & MoreBooking flights
- S3 · E15How to Book Domestic Delta® Flights with Points (With SkyMiles + Airline Partners)Booking flights
- S3 · E14Every Credit Card I Keep (And Why) — $3,000 in Annual Fees ExplainedChase
- S3 · E13How to Book Southwest Flights with a Companion Pass (The Easy Way!)Southwest
- S3 · E12Citi ThankYou® Points Overview: Cards and Sweet SpotsMore programs
- S3 · E11Bilt’s New Credit Cards: Earning Points on Rent & Mortgage ExplainedMore programs
- S3 · E10How to Earn Bilt Rewards Without a Credit Card (Step-by-Step)More programs
- S3 · E9Chase Ultimate Rewards 2026 Update: New Rules and How to PivotChase
- S2 · E12Why You Should Open the New Southwest Debit Card NOW (December Strategy)Southwest
- S3 · E8Is the Capital One Venture X Still Worth It?More programs
- S2 · E11The Best Credit Card for Airport Lounge Access (2025-2026 Changes)Airport perks
- Podcast Update: We’re Back! (Season 3)
- S2 · E10Southwest is Changing – Here’s What to Do!Southwest
- S1 · E22Chase 2025 Business Card Shake-Up: New Perks, Stricter Rules & A New CardChase
- S1 · E21Chase Sapphire 2025 OVERHAUL: Is the $795 Reserve Card Worth It?Chase
- S3 · E7Partner Airline Deals for Booking Alaska & Hawaiian FlightsBooking flights
- S3 · E6Alaska and Hawaiian Miles for Domestic Award FlightsBooking flights
- S3 · E5Amex Points Explained: The Good, The Bad, and The Rules You Need to KnowMore programs
- S3 · E4Best Avios Strategies for Domestic American Airlines FlightsBooking flights
- S3 · E3American Airlines Miles: Best Ways to Earn & Redeem for Domestic FlightsBooking flights
- S3 · E2Award Flights Made Easy: My Simple Research ProcessBooking flights
- S3 · E1Season 3 Premiere: Unlocking Domestic Flights with Points & MilesBooking flights
- S2 · E9Listener Travel Tricks: Your Best Tips for Saving Money and Maximizing RewardsSouthwest
- S2 · E8Hidden Gems: Unique Ways to Use Venture MilesMore programs
- S2 · E7The Venture X Card: A Deep Dive into Perks and BenefitsAirport perks
- S2 · E6Best 2024 Credit Cards for Airport Lounge AccessAirport perks
- S2 · E5Skip the Lines: Your Ultimate Guide to Save Time at the AirportAirport perks
- S2 · E3Southwest Flight Savings: Tips and Tricks for Saving BigSouthwest
- S2 · E2Maximize Your Rewards: The Ultimate Guide to Credit Card CancellationMore programs
- S2 · E1Southwest Companion Pass – Your Ticket to a Year or More of Free FlightsSouthwest
- S1 · E20Inspiring Travel Stories Using PointsMore programs
- S1 · E19Don’t Miss These Card Perks and BenefitsChase
- S1 · E18Your Points Questions AnsweredChase
- S1 · E17Earning A Million (Valuable) Points on AutopilotChase
- S1 · E16How (Almost) Anyone Can Get a Business Credit CardChase
- S1 · E15Sweet Spots for Booking Flights with Ultimate RewardsChase
- S1 · E14Avoid These Mistakes Booking Flights with PointsBooking flights
- S1 · E13Best (and most underrated) Ways to Use Ultimate Rewards to Book Any Flight, Hotel, or CruiseChase
- S1 · E12Strategy Tips to Keep Earning Chase Points ForeverChase
- S1 · E11Tips to Use Your Points for Hyatt (our favorite use for Chase points)Chase
- S1 · E10Best and Worst Ways to Use Ultimate Rewards Points for HotelsChase
- S1 · E9Don’t Ignore These Chase Sapphire Preferred Benefits (Part 2: Travel Benefits)Chase
- S1 · E8Don’t Ignore These Chase Sapphire Preferred Benefits! (Part 1: Shopping Benefits)Chase
- S1 · E7Mistake: Not staying organized (these tools help!)Chase
- S1 · E6Planning Trips with Points is Different: 3 Mindset Shifts to Make it EasierChase
- S1 · E5Navigating the Chase 5/24 Rule: Tips and StrategiesChase
- S1 · E4How to pick the right cardsChase
- S1 · E3Myth: Opening credit cards will ruin your credit scoreChase
- S1 · E2The easy shift than can 10x your pointsChase
- S1 · E1What is “Points for Normal People”?Chase
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Meet your host
Points advice from a mom who flies economy.
Hi, I'm Katie. I started earning points when we were a one-income family who still wanted to see the world. Since then, points have covered the flights for our international adoption, a six-week trip to Asia with a baby, and multiple family vacations every year.
We fly economy because business class isn't worth the points to us. We'd rather use them to travel more often. This show teaches the simple system we actually use, so your points cover more trips, too.
Prefer reading to listening?
The free Travel Points 101 guide covers the same foundations in about 30 minutes, with simple tasks to get you started.
