Points for Normal People
Most points advice is built for the first-class life. This show is for normal families who want their everyday spending to cover multiple vacations a year, in just a few hours a month.

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- Trailer
- S1 · E1What is “Points for Normal People”?Chase
- S1 · E2The easy shift than can 10x your pointsChase
- S1 · E3Myth: Opening credit cards will ruin your credit scoreChase
- S1 · E4How to pick the right cardsChase
- S1 · E5Navigating the Chase 5/24 Rule: Tips and StrategiesChase
- S1 · E6Planning Trips with Points is Different: 3 Mindset Shifts to Make it EasierChase
- S1 · E7Mistake: Not staying organized (these tools help!)Chase
- S1 · E8Don’t Ignore These Chase Sapphire Preferred Benefits! (Part 1: Shopping Benefits)Chase
- S1 · E9Don’t Ignore These Chase Sapphire Preferred Benefits (Part 2: Travel Benefits)Chase
- S1 · E10Best and Worst Ways to Use Ultimate Rewards Points for HotelsChase
- S1 · E11Tips to Use Your Points for Hyatt (our favorite use for Chase points)Chase
- S1 · E12Strategy Tips to Keep Earning Chase Points ForeverChase
- S1 · E13Best (and most underrated) Ways to Use Ultimate Rewards to Book Any Flight, Hotel, or CruiseChase
- S1 · E14Avoid These Mistakes Booking Flights with PointsBooking flights
- S1 · E15Sweet Spots for Booking Flights with Ultimate RewardsChase
- S1 · E16How (Almost) Anyone Can Get a Business Credit CardChase
- S1 · E17Earning A Million (Valuable) Points on AutopilotChase
- S1 · E18Your Points Questions AnsweredChase
- S1 · E19Don’t Miss These Card Perks and BenefitsChase
- S1 · E20Inspiring Travel Stories Using PointsMore programs
- S2 · E1Southwest Companion Pass – Your Ticket to a Year or More of Free FlightsSouthwest
- S2 · E2Maximize Your Rewards: The Ultimate Guide to Credit Card CancellationMore programs
- S2 · E3Southwest Flight Savings: Tips and Tricks for Saving BigSouthwest
- S2 · E5Skip the Lines: Your Ultimate Guide to Save Time at the AirportAirport perks
- S2 · E6Best 2024 Credit Cards for Airport Lounge AccessAirport perks
- S2 · E7The Venture X Card: A Deep Dive into Perks and BenefitsAirport perks
- S2 · E8Hidden Gems: Unique Ways to Use Venture MilesMore programs
- S2 · E9Listener Travel Tricks: Your Best Tips for Saving Money and Maximizing RewardsSouthwest
- S3 · E1Season 3 Premiere: Unlocking Domestic Flights with Points & MilesBooking flights
- S3 · E2Award Flights Made Easy: My Simple Research ProcessBooking flights
- S3 · E3American Airlines Miles: Best Ways to Earn & Redeem for Domestic FlightsBooking flights
- S3 · E4Best Avios Strategies for Domestic American Airlines FlightsBooking flights
- S3 · E5Amex Points Explained: The Good, The Bad, and The Rules You Need to KnowMore programs
- S3 · E6Alaska and Hawaiian Miles for Domestic Award FlightsBooking flights
- S3 · E7Partner Airline Deals for Booking Alaska & Hawaiian FlightsBooking flights
- S1 · E21Chase Sapphire 2025 OVERHAUL: Is the $795 Reserve Card Worth It?Chase
- S1 · E22Chase 2025 Business Card Shake-Up: New Perks, Stricter Rules & A New CardChase
- S2 · E10Southwest is Changing – Here’s What to Do!Southwest
- Podcast Update: We’re Back! (Season 3)
- S2 · E11The Best Credit Card for Airport Lounge Access (2025-2026 Changes)Airport perks
- S3 · E8Is the Capital One Venture X Still Worth It?More programs
- S2 · E12Why You Should Open the New Southwest Debit Card NOW (December Strategy)Southwest
- S3 · E9Chase Ultimate Rewards 2026 Update: New Rules and How to PivotChase
- S3 · E10How to Earn Bilt Rewards Without a Credit Card (Step-by-Step)More programs
- S3 · E11Bilt’s New Credit Cards: Earning Points on Rent & Mortgage ExplainedMore programs
- S3 · E12Citi ThankYou® Points Overview: Cards and Sweet SpotsMore programs
- S3 · E13How to Book Southwest Flights with a Companion Pass (The Easy Way!)Southwest
- S3 · E14Every Credit Card I Keep (And Why) — $3,000 in Annual Fees ExplainedChase
- S3 · E15How to Book Domestic Delta® Flights with Points (With SkyMiles + Airline Partners)Booking flights
- S3 · E16United MileagePlus® Explained: Earning, Cards, Pooling & MoreBooking flights
- S3 · E17How to Book United Flights Without United MilesBooking flights
- S3 · E18Award Travel Updates: Alaska, Avios, Citi & Bilt Changes Explained!Booking flights
- S3 · E19Chase Sapphire Preferred Just ‘Refreshed’ [2026] — Is it still worth it?Chase
- S3 · E20What’s Going On With Chase Ink Approvals in 2026Chase
- S3 · E21The Southwest Companion Pass as we know it is endingSouthwest
- E56E56: Strategy Shifts for 2027 + Three-Year Plan Update

Meet your host
Points advice from a mom who flies economy.
Hi, I'm Katie. I started earning points when we were a one-income family who still wanted to see the world. Since then, points have covered the flights for our international adoption, a six-week trip to Asia with a baby, and multiple family vacations every year.
We fly economy because business class isn't worth the points to us. We'd rather use them to travel more often. This show teaches the simple system we actually use, so your points cover more trips, too.
Prefer reading to listening?
The free Travel Points 101 guide covers the same foundations in about 30 minutes, with simple tasks to get you started.
